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Mike

My wife died recently and both of my kids are going off to college. NOW is certainly the time to declutter. My problem is that while my wife was still here I complained ad nauseum, as though I were Filix Unger and she and the kids were Oscar Madison. Now that she is gone, I feel guilty about being able to discard whatever I want to. I pick up an object and can't bring myself to get rid of it. This site gave me great comfort and strength. What are my new dreams? I never looked at it that way before. If my wife were still here, We would have NEW dreams at this point in life too. That was a great ephiphany to me. I think I will begin tomorrow morning. Gulp. thanks

Roseann

My daughter had a very generous grandmother who bought her tons of toys. Since she was not rough with anything, her things are still in good shape.

What can I do with used toys? Thorwing things out disturbs mme because of environmental impact. In our house, we firmly believe in recycling.

We wooould all like to go on with our lives. My daughter is entering her senior year in high school, and I still have childhod stuff in my house. I want to get it out of here, but I'm coming up short for ways to do it. Goodwill and Salvation Army always seem saturated with this kind of merchandise, and never want anything when I call them. I am desperate for suggestions.

By the time my daughter has chllldren of her own, her things will be too dusty and moldy for them to play with. Any suggetions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

My address is: junkbuster50@hotmail.com

Dinah

Hi Roseann,

This can be a tricky proposition. You want to involve your daughter in the process so as to avoid later resentment.

I'd recommend a four box approach:

1) Trash - too junky to donate.

2) Charity - give some other kid a chance at it. (You may have to drive somewhere to donate it, but I guarantee there's a poor kid somewhere who deserves these toys. Check with your local family homeless shelter.)

3) Holding Tank - Not quite ready to part with it, but not sure to want it later.

4) Save - too many memories to let it go.

With your daughter, divide stuff into these categories. 1 & 2 go away right away. #3 you hold onto for a year and then re-divide. #4 goes in storage. Label those latter two boxes so you don't have to reopen them to know what they contain.

Note that as soon as she has a place of her own categories 3 & 4 can go live with her. :)

korinthe

I am surprised not to have seen it mentioned already, but you can try Freecycle to donate things to someone who will actually use them and appreciate them. Works well for toys and clothes when the thrift shop already has more than they can handle. Use Google to find a Freecycle group in your area -- it is basically a mailing list; you post a description of what you're offering, and people reply to you; you designate the lucky recipient, and they have to come pick it up at a location of your choice. The only stipulation is that items must be freely offered and accepted (no barter or payment of any kind, even coffee).

Nice contemplative feel to the blog, by the way. I came here via 43Folders.

m

Jason well done on selling the car! If you are planning long trips sans car/ plane try this website for ideas www.seat61.com

mollydot

Thanks for all those suggestions. I'm getting better at letting go of presents in general, but have you any ideas for getting rid of gifts when you're pretty sure that that particular giver would be hurt and upset if she knew a present she gave wasn't wanted.
She doesn't think you should hold on to things just because they were presents, but wouldn't want her presents to fall into the unwanted category. And yes, she has asked about presents she's given me in the past.

mollydot

Answering my own question:

After thinking about it some more, I've come to the conclusion I should just go ahead and get rid of the things I don't want. I'm not responsible for her perfectionism (must give perfect gift that will be appreciated forever).

Thank you. If you hadn't presented me with the opportunity to write down my issue, I don't think I would have come to this conclusion. I would have just kept worrying in circles.

And I've only just now realised I'm discarding a worry. Thanks again!

Anonymous

Give to Salvation Army. It's the best way to get rid of things.

Jerry

During my divorce, I wanted to get rid of everything. I didn't want to own anything at all, at least nothing that wasn't absolutely necessary. So I made a list of what I absolutely had to have in order to live.

The list is very short! It will all easily fit into the trunk of my car, or perhaps three suitcases. The rest of it I either consider disposable, or I gave to my ex.

Unfortunately I'm still waiting for her to come and get it.

Edward

More books off to the library booksale, check.

The biggest bit of stuff at the moment is a huge pile of half-processed paper in my home office, and an old and fixable but not currently running car in the driveway. I would be happy to have both taken care of.

Patty Swan

For those who live in a city or town that has www.craigslist.com ...Great way to post items that you want to give away or items that you want to sell. No charge and easy to do.

Erin

Thank you, Dinah. Just, thank you. I came across this site completely accidentally, but as life has a way of showing us where to go when we need help, it has already shifted my thinking. I have never thought of clutter in terms of your phrase Dream Duty, but that makes more sense to me than any get organized/get rid of stuff/clear up clutter/organize your closet and your life type of literature that I have ever seen. Even your site is a breath of fresh air - no meaningless pictures, no frilly colors and things that move... just purely helpful, thoughtful, and calming suggestions. Thank you for this - I am on my way to celebrating Discardia daily.

lorna

Jason,
The car thing. Try limiting your use of it for 6 months. See how many emergencies you come up against that a 911 call wouldn't take care of and then decide. Loan it to a friend or have them park it somewhere out of your life and try non-auto-ownership for real for a time. You can always get it back if it truly doesn't work. Some things are really necessities in the places we live. And that's OK. If it is paid for, then you are getting more worth out of it than if it is a new "upgrade stuff purchase" thing.

Lorna

Sorry Jason, I should have read further down the post before responding.

I truly have one BIG dilemma...family "heirlooms" such as a hand-crocheted bedspread that my great, great grandmother made for her grandson (my grand father) when he was a boy. I've carted this albatros around for 40 years and don't know how to handle disposing/parting/whatever with it. What about old family albums and stuff that is meaningful, but not worthy of carrying forward beyond me? This is the hurdle. I do great for a while discarding regular stuff, but then I get to the trunk and freeze-up.
Lorna

kiki metzler

what about those boxes, baskets and other aesthetically appealing containers filled with beautiful smi-precious stones, antique glass beads, beautiful and quality items of clutter? Not to mention the objects of art : the cat sculpture my mother carved, the works of art all around the house that my father painted and I remember from my childhood- not to mention that they are worth something as he was a reknowned fine artist and these works are really great artwork... and the furniture that I love but is broken and odd antique... How do I simply DO it and purge EVERYTHING, My extensive bone collection with horse skulls and seal bonesetc.?? Then there is the basement that everyone wont help me with and they want to keep all their broken stuff? and the apathy I feel about the big work it'll take to get up, quit procrastinating and wade through the trash and dirt that accompanies all the stuff ?????

Dinah

Keep the beautiful.

Don't feel like you have to change the parts you want to change all at once.

Set the kitchen timer for 30 minutes. No distractions, no stopping, just spend 30 minutes on clearing out the non-useful, non-beautiful. Maybe just dusting or carrying out some trash.

Next time there's a little less in the way.

Start doing these little bursts regularly. It will make a difference.

Anne Myers

Lorna, I just read your comment about your dilemma with the family heirlooms. I had something similar - two handmade afghans, one from each grandmother - that I had carted around for years and despised. They didn't go with my color schemes and smelled of mothballs, and I never used them, but I was afraid if I got rid of them, my mother would find out and jump down my throat. One day I got up the nerve to mention to her that I was 'clean sweeping" my apartment (this was before I knew of Discardia), and wondered what to do with the afghans. Much to my surprise, she told me that they were just things - that I had enjoyed them for a while, but I didn't need to keep them to know I was loved by my grandmothers. I felt as though a huge weight had rolled off my shoulders, and donated the afghans to a battered women's shelter, where they would help someone else.

I have other family things sitting around, and have weeded it out in different waves. Something that seems absolutely necessary to keep one pass through is just a thing the next time, with more perspective. I'm keeping a small number of momentos if they are things I can use and enjoy, or think I want to offer my nieces and nephews a chance to have. But they really are just things and if they were to go tomorrow, I probably wouldn't even know what was missing.

Anne

ELAINE C ROWELL

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH PRECIOUS MOMENTS GIFTS, AND REALLY MY HOME IS FULL OF KNICK KNACKS GIVEN TO ME BY FRIENDS AND FAMILY. HOW CAN I DECKUTTER?

Amy

Try a Free Yard Sale. You just have to advertise it (with posters or a free ad in the classified section of the newspaper or on the webs to groups like Freecycle or Craigs List) & then set everything out & let people take home whatever they can use. You don't have to do much prep work--no pricing, no additional sorting, etc.--just a little advertising & setting out the things you've already decided to bless someone else with. Call ahead of time & make arrangements for a charity to pick up the leftovers at a pre-set time & you won't have to take any of it back into your house. I've also heard of people setting out things by their mailbox & putting a FREE sign on top/in front of the item....you could do this every few days or any time you come up with things you no longer love or use.

Heather

I sold my car in December 2005, and my life is so much better. Granted, I lived
in Portland, Oregon, and now I live in Corvallis. Both are convenient for
for biking. Regardless, I think it's doable most places. Just get a
ton of reflective tape if people aren't watching for bikers in your
town. I think that's the scariest part.

I read a statistic that the average in town biking speed is 13 mph. When you add up all the time spent working to pay for the car, washing, maintenance, fees, parking meters, tickets, DMV fees, filling up, etc., the cars are going.....11 mph! Biking is faster!

Why in the world do people drive to the gym? Give me a break! Without a car, you get just the right amount of exercise. Plus, you're outside. I started viewing things differently after I got out of my car. In a car, you are stuck on a road and have to go with the grain. On my bike, I can ride through the park, side streets, on the sidewalk, though forests, and in alleys on my way to work. I've seen parts of the cities I lived in drivers never would. They are the forgotten nooks and crannies that have inherent beauty. If people were outside walking, biking, and bussing, we'd see a strong community development. Our streets would safer and better kept up.

If you can't or don't want to bike, there are other alternatives. Lots of people are willing to pick you up for functions and errands if you help pay for gas. See if people you know are interested in carpooling. You will notice that after your car is gone, you'll magically find new ways to get the same tasks accomplished. The needs will be met. You'll notice stores closer to home or learn to do without certain things. You'll also notice that your lifestyle will bring you into contact with other carless people. That brings more opportunity for collaboration.

Living without a car is a great way to keep from accumulating clutter. With a car, it requires no thought to haul stuff around? If I find something big, I have to go to the trouble of getting a vehicle or having it dropped off. If it's worth the extra effort, I'll know. There is a garden center a few blocks away, and the owner delivers garden amendments for free a couple times a year.

I read "How to Live Well Without a Car" by Chris Balish. What a great book. Must read.

You can always rent from Enterprise, and if you do that once a month for big trips, etc., the savings will still be huge. The company says they have a rental
office within 15 miles of 90% of the US population. On the weekend,
they have deals where the car is $10-20 per day. That's amazing! I rent a small car every couple months. I drive to my mom's house, go camping, and get goodies at Trader Joe's on the way home. So easy.

Let's not forget that public transportation between cities is definitely possible. Greyhound and Amtrak are dilapidated because they go unused. Let's support the options we have available so they can keep up and improve.

I'm thinking of making a sign for the rack on the back of my bike that
says "infinity mpg", but I'd be using the infinity sign instead of
the word.

I am excited about this stuff, because I'm a senior in college and want to work on public transportation. Go to Europe, and you'll see that cars are unnecessary. How did this end up so long?

Carfree is carefree! I promise.

Josh Rachlis

This really is one of the best things I've ever read in my life. I come back to it every so often, to remind me that it's okay to purge old papers, mementos, keepsakes... All the things I keep lying around. I've gone through many waves of purging over the years, every time I've moved. And I'm in a little one-bedroom now. So I really don't have that much stuff left. But I find that having almost ANY clutter around is stressful. Even if it's just a few papers on a shelf. Notes from an old guitar lesson. Registration forms from an old bank account. Whatever. Stuff like that stands out even more in a small apartment than it would in a house. And it takes away the possibility of having a nice, sleek place that people will want to visit. Sure, I guess it's good to have some stuff. But then again, maybe it's better to not have anything that there's any doubt about needing or not. Because then a little piece of your mind is always occupied with it everytime you look over at the shelf. Even if it's in a decorative box, it's still taking up precious space in your home. So, yah, thanks for writing this piece about Discardia. It's good to know I'm not alone in finding it hard to get rid of things.

Dinah

Yay! Thanks, Josh!

I confess, I'm still whittling down that closet stuff, but at least a lot of my space is doubt-inducing-clutter free.

Denisse

I need help...I've been thinking about decluttering my life for too long...I don't really think I have THAT much stuff, but it's enough to bother my existence. But here are the questions that stop my efforts:
1)To what end do we declutter? i.e. is it better to own nothing at all?
2)Is it really going to feel better to have an empty house?
3)What do we need to keep? (besides say a bed, a couch, and a chest of drawers)--What about art? Decorative items? Pictures?
4)And clothes, how many outfits is the right amount?
Please help...I want to end this debate with myself.

Dinah

Hi there,

These are fun questions. I'd say:

1) To be surrounded by the stuff which makes us happy or wise or growing or some combination of these and/or which supports us well in devoting our time to the things that matter to us instead the things that don't.

2) It's going to feel better to have crap you don't want or need distracting you and getting in your way all the time.

3) The answer varies from person to person. I have lots of things, but I'm continually evaluating them as time goes by to decide if they're still the right things for who I am now.

4) That number which minimizes your stressing out over clothes. Not so many bad choices that you can't get dressed, not so few good choices that a suitable outfit isn't clean, and not so many that you can't find something suitable & pleasing each time you get dressed.

TFarcie

This is a fantastic website! I've been going through the archives pretty much all afternoon, every time I need a break from purging my closet (I don't know why getting rid of stuff that doesn't fit is so hard, but it is).

Reading through your posts is giving me the positive reinforcement I need to get through this overwhelming task. Thank you! And thank you also for keeping the site so easy on the eyes, as well.

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